#DesignTheNextBLUETTI : A DC desk bike & aeolian wind focus turbines

Hello!

Enjoying lunchtime to post this idea… before committing to the 10.000 steps goal of the day :running_woman:t2:
 
Working 10 meters away from home removes an essential component in our lifestyle: having to move. I sit at a desk 8h+ a day as a result. No commuting is great of course, but I see myself move less, and less.

 
Wind + Desk Bike = DC motor :blue_heart:

This #DesignTheNextBLUETTI post is about leveraging the potential of Bluetti stations and their very competent DC inputs to harvest energy from other sources than solar. This is said with mechanical/rotational sources in mind.

  1. The first one is just leg oil, as in “move those legs at least 1h a day”.
  2. The second one is abundant on rooftops, aka wind.

They both convert rotation into voltage and that’s a small R&D project we have here.
 
With a few spares we got from amazon, we’re attempting to upgrade the desk bike:


While the parts are rated at 300W, we could hardly push it higher than 60W, but then, that’s enough for a proof-of-concept. The thing is 12V(ish*), so good for small station, but AC300 would click on and off as it’s below its pickup threshold.
 
*ish: while not an accurate unit, we measured up to 18V when really pedalling hard. Not sure it’ll stand the test of time at that rate, but we’d be unable to keep up. Probably the ergonomics, not our condition of course :innocent:
 
With one of our workstations equipped with a preexisting passive desk bike, we started to tinker to obtain a way to turn the sitting sessions in actual production. It’s all part of our research for implementing low-profile wind focus turbines.
 
Observe, Hubby so focused while pedalling. Notice the Bluetti under the desk.
I think he pretends to be focused, really:

 

Realistic suggestion for the Next Bluetti: desk bike

With a 24V DC output, one can easily expect to output 5Amps, so think 100W of continuous power. It’s not about recharging the battery, it’s more about not wasting a fraction of a renewable, and adding the “2-in-1” formula to a workout.
Ergonomics need to be really good, as humorously mentioned. While the standing bike is great, a more ergonomic approach would be the following design, better for longer cruises, favoring lower heart rates and good focused work on the posterior chain, and simply more comfortable (screen on this pic is too low for work for the record):

 
Next-level suggestion for the Next Bluetti: aeolian wind focus turbine

We’ve contacted the Ridgeblade guys recently. Their product is great for microgrids. But we want simple DC output, anything a medium-sized station can handle (say 48V so it’s both efficient for larger batteries, and within range for AC70).
 
The principle is simple, it’s like a turbocharger for wind power. Instead of operating at standard air pressure like regular windmills do, it sits atop a roof where the whole volume of air that meets your roof is compressed towards the tip, or “pinch point”:

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Ridgeblade didn’t invent anything new here, and remembering the original doc of AC300, Bluetti’s been considering aeolian at least a few times (see @Selfmadestrom 's post) :

More than a few of us Bluetti users would love it.
Imagine:

  • DC1 has solar.
  • DC2 has an aeolian rooftop generator.

That’s a boost during sunny moments, and constant inlfux to offset standby/idle consumption, and probably more. We like the RAID-type redunancy in our work, and this fits that narrative. Engineer happy.

 
conclusion
We’d like to see as #DesignTheNextBLUETTI a rotation DC source, be it the deskbike, or the full-blown rooftop module!

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Interesting… wind power is something that none of the “Big players” in the powerstation segment ever bring to production. I can speak from my own experiences that a Wind Turbine is far from plug and play. That might be the reason, to drop this concept until now.

Really would love to see something into this direction.

I just thing a few days ago about the same thing you mentioned for the desk bike. The devices in my gym show how much wattage you would produce and i was about 80W with a similar devices from the photo. Would be great for Home Office users on a dark day, maybe even running a bluetti Powerstation as UPS between the Desk bike and the working laptop.

Thanks for your insights in your ideas!
Erik

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@Chrissie Thanks for the entry!

Still, as you mentioned a while back: very high voltages, vibration, and difficulty to calibrate an MPPT curve in a “one-size fits all” way. Heck, why not add a tensor chip in the next unit, and have it machine-learn the wind conditions at runtime to automagically plot the curve? Ok, I’m out.

Well basicly, there are controllers with “auto curve”. But they are basicly trash and never reach a custom curve even close.

The main problem with wind turbines are the different conditions where it placed. Some place may have heavy wind and the turbine needs to set really hard in order to not spin to heavy. In a light wind scenario it need to set more soft to get into rotation. Solar is far more unified and easy to run

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Hi Chrissy, I am a cyclist. I like your pedal power idea. I wonder if it could be adapted to work on a real bike. Then I could carry a smaller Bluetti like my EB3A or an AC2A in my bike basket and be charging it on my journey :smile:

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Hello Tezzabee,
Good to hear!

 

It’s a valid point you have there - it goes farther than our original idea, which was to either get a “sitting pedalo desk” as described in my post, or adapting the existing static bike conversion systems like this one:

A variation of this needs the read wheel to be removed:

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The latter has better coupling, but requires more setup time.
However, your point reminds of dynamos when we were kids:

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I’d then imagine it mounted like a Solex engine, with a compartment on top to hold your EB3A or AC2A in a secure way:

That would even make it ideal to power your phone on the go.
We’r however convinced that adding a flywheel would probably be the best option, but that’d restrict the design to steady trainer bikes…

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Thanks for your reply and your further ideas. Yes, I remember the dynamos, with the flickery lights and uphill effort :grin: Looks like it’s not so feasible as a static version, but it would be good to be able to utilise my pedal power whilst I am doing it anyway on my journeys.

Hi, I’m interested in this, Ive just began to research generating using wind / cycle utilising a dynamo.
Have you got a working model yet?