@BradMitchellPhotography Yes, the firmware will higher the self-consumption. I will check with our technician about the possibility. If there is any update, I will inform you.
So what if a customer don’t want a higher self-consumption / discharge.
How can you make HIS product perform worse without his consent?
This is why you MUST have change logs for the updates.
For this firmware, I have asked for advice and indicated possible drawbacks before pushing it. At the same time, we also considered the possibility that this firmware would not be accepted by all the customers, so it was not pushed to all machines. The feedback regarding the need for change logs in the updates has been forwarded to the relevant departments for evaluation.
So… with the new firmware, can the unit be switched completely off so no drain will occur? I was going to purchase this unit this week, but I can’t have drain on a unit not being used.
ARsolar: The short answer to your question is “yes”.
I just ran some tests regarding this issue over the last several days with the updated firmware (ARM v2073.04, DSP v2077.07, BMS v1033.07). I ran each test over at least 24 hours and observed how much the state of charge changed. I then calculated continuous self-discharge rate as (Capacity)(Lost SoC)/(Time), where Capacity is 1152 W-hr for AC180. There were no AC or DC loads plugged in during these tests. Here is what I found:
- AC180 in standby*: 3W continuous self-discharge rate.
- AC180 DC output circuit on: 3W continuous self-discharge rate.
- AC180 AC output circuit on: 12W continuous self-discharge rate.
- AC180 off **: 0 self-discharge rate (i.e. not measurable over 24 hours).
*“Standby” is a term I made up. It means that AC and DC output circuits are both off, but AC180 is not off (though its screen may be off). It is still “responsive” and can still be charged by solar (i.e. MPPT circuit will recognize solar input and do its thing to regulate the solar charging) and the unit is still accessible via the Bluetooth app and will wake up if accessed via Bluetooth app. Standby can be initiated by simply turning off both AC and DC output circuits, but not pressing the physical Pwr button. The screen will go dark after several seconds but still be in this “standby” mode.
**“Off” means the unit is turned off by manually pressing the physical Pwr button on the unit for multiple seconds until the AC180 turns off. In this state, it cannot be charged by solar and the unit is not accessible via the Bluetooth app (until it is turned back on again via the physical Pwr button).
I’m glad that “off” has 0 self-discharge, otherwise I’d probably be returning the AC180. Even though I’m not happy that it can’t solar charge unless in “standby”. I live in rainy western Washington State and can’t get enough juice from my 100W solar panel to keep up with 3 watts of self-discharge for days at a time.
Hope it helps,
I am also having the same issues with my AC180. Can I have the updated firmware? DSP and BMS.
@10001110101 For the problem of PV activation, the problem can be resolved by updating the BMS version currently, but it may little higher the consumption. Would you like to test?
Yes I would like to test.
@10001110101 OK. The firmware will be pushed in 12 hours. Looking forward to your update.
I am having the same issue with my two AC180s. I would like to test the updated firmware as well.
SNs AC1802330004042220, AC1802330004048667
@spstech The BMS 1033.08 was pushed to all AC180s, please update it andcheck.
I’m also having the issue of PV activation, even after the latest firmware from last week. I have 2, 100 watt panels in series always connected. May I test a new firmware? I’m ok with a higher power consumption.