- Have you considered integrating a home energy storage system into your life? What motivates your interest?
- Are you thinking of investing in a home energy storage system? Tell us your reasons. Is it for energy independence, preparedness for outages, or more efficient cost management?
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Are you thinking of investing in a home energy storage system? Tell us your reasons. Is it for energy independence, preparedness for outages, or more efficient cost management?
Right now, i check the possibilities to integrate such a system into everthing i already have build in terms of solar. The main reason for this is to better manage and use the incoming Solar Power. Other factors like the UPS are also really welcome, but not that much necassary in germany. Our Grid is really stable.
What energy storage info do you seek? New tech can raise questions. Whether about capabilities, installation, or more, we’ve got your answers.
Some really interesting question that maybe a lot of people are asking are things like:
What can this system handle? - Like can it run my Wasching Machine, or heat plate. EP760 for example only can run a 1 Phase output, in this case things like a induction cooking plate cant run by this unit because it needs 3 Phases.
What about systems that already run? For example: In germany there are a lot of balcony Solar Systems which already run. How does this system effect the EP Systems? Can it run together etc. There might be a problem when the grid is failing!
Questions about the installation: Which companys are officially “supported” to install such a system and what is the estimated price to install a EP System? - Maybe something like a list would be great, per Country and State.
Yes. I got a Victron/Pylontech home installation last summer. Main items that motivated me:
Accountability: given the global energy/climate crisis, it’s a personal responsibility to reduce our grid usage and generate our own energy, to the extent of what we can do.
Market independence: With energy prices playing rollercoasters, it makes sense to have a one-time purchase cover 100% of energy needs 6 month a year, and reducing grid dependency to a strict minimum.
Stability. Grid going down due to its age, and lack of scalability, and exponential rise in EVs & grid-coupled solar installations make blackouts & brownouts more and more frequent. Grid-coupled PV systems shut down during summer days as the grid is saturated. Just wow.
Geek-ness. Bluetti got me hooked on solar power, so now I can’t think of using energy that’s not solar, or at least renewable.
Same as above. Independence, accountability.
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Moreover, the grid is ageing, and in terrible state here in Belgium. Taxpayers are literally funding its necessary upgrades so it complies with the next EU standards. For instance, half of the price you pay for your electric consumption is “transport & network”.
On top of that, solar “prosumers” are to pay a tax on the excess energy they inject in the network. Belgium, land of copromises and absurdity strikes again: transport costs are so high that they offset the resell of your excess energy, so dumping your production in the network actually costs you money. Go wonder. It made sense to invest in half a ton of batteries. Maybe I didn’t buy the right brand given the problem my installation just started facing.
Criteria that I think outperform competition in brands like Victron should be at the heart of these fine Bluetti products:
Is it VDE 0.126-1-1 2014 or 2019 compliant? It’s the dreaded EU norm about anti-islanding. A must have.
Is there parallel operation capabilities? Can I mount one unit per phase and have them communicate? My house runs a 3-phase system, and need automatic phase balancing.
What about peak shaving?
Is there an automatic transfer switch?
With Multiplus-II in mind, and its capability to pull up to 50 amps from the grid to supplement the inverter’s capability… does EP800 have something similar? Being 100% electric (water, cooking, heating), I need 2 Multiplus 5000 per phase to prevent overloads in off-grid mode, or the automatic transfer to pull from the grid.
Adding my two cents now and a sob story. Having both Pylontech & Victron in the same bed was amazing. They did great, until Wednesday. A battery made a loud pop, and the whole system went dark.
The system is still under warranty until 2032 (batteries, at least). Pylontech wants all the logs to look for a “power surge from a non-Pylontech component” … why? Probably to void the warranty and leave me with 56kWh of dead batteries suggesting it’s not their fault.
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These all-in-one solutions from Bluetti seem to address this kind of possible issue. Moreover, the wiring looks infinitely more simple. Provided EP800 & the likes have all 3 features I listed above, they’re probably a Victron/Pylontech killer.
. @BLUETTI - hope this standpoint helps, especially since it compares hopes vs a bad experience (with competition…) oh and if you feel like donating a few EP800 as “demonstration material”, I’ll gladly ditch the Victron setup and replace it with a heroic Bluetti success story
Ok, I think my question or suggestion is more global and also for EP800, EP700 and EP600.
In my home country (Austria) are some power supplier which provide a hourly electricity price. That mean at midday (much PV feed) is the price near negativ, later on evening (everybody at home, havy load on grid) is the price high.
How can we manage those calculated power price with our BLUETTI system? How can we interact with the system on demand, not by scheduled tasks for charching/discharging?
You use a bluetooth modbus protocol to interact with the app and change the parameters. It is posible to open the interface on EP600, EP750, … to interact with other devices, for example a wall box for e-car or some heat pump for house heating/cooling.
Keyword for me is smart home, I’d like to connect power supplier (EPxxx) and consumer (wall box, …) together. Just load the e-car if EP is full, but how to know when …
@SigiKa
The communication protocol for BLUETTI home storage system and smart home is not open, which means it cannot be controlled through smart devices. At the moment, time control management is only available in the scheduled mode. If there are any software updates in the future, I will let youknow once.
- Have you considered integrating a home energy storage system into your life? What motivates your interest?
- Are you thinking of investing in a home energy storage system? Tell us your reasons. Is it for energy independence, preparedness for outages, or more efficient cost management?
- What energy storage info do you seek? New tech can raise questions. Whether about capabilities, installation, or more, we’ve got your answers.
Start by replying to this post with your perspective.
