B300s new cord not compatible with AC300

Product Discussion
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The AC300 is designed to work with the B300 battery, while the AC500 is compatible with the B300S battery. However, it is currently not recommended to connect the B300S battery to the AC300.

Correction: The B300S also requires a P090D to P150D cable to connect to the AC300.

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Works great. I’ve been running mine since January with no issues.

  • B300 is ON SALE on Amazon current at $1800.

  • B300s is currently listed at $2300 + $108 for the cable.

  • $600 more for the B300s…pretty steep with out getting some of the benefits of the better battery.

  • So, do you all think it is definitely worth the extra money to get the B300s?

  • Also, will the B300s plug into the B300 with out the adapter cable? And, if I do get the extra battery, is it better to connect #2 battery into #2, or #2 directly into base? If I get the B300s, will it matter which way it is connected?

Thanks for any input.

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Why is it not recommended? It is a better, newer battery. Say 5 years from now, will you all still be making the B300 and B300s?

Hopefully somebody will weigh in on my other question as to whether it is worth the extra $600 to get the NOT-recommended but better battery. But it would help if we new why it is not recommended.

Thanks!

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As I mentioned in my previous reply, when the B300S is connected to the AC300, the charging and discharging power are limited by the host, and the heating function is also disabled. I certainly know that B300S is better, but all functions will work properly when the B300S is connected to the AC500.

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Thanks for the reply. I understand the AC300 will limit some of the advantages of the B300s. But I am not clear how…or if it is really a limitation.

  1. If I want to charge the B300s battery directly (max 500w input) but while still connected to the AC300, with a 460w panel (the panel is connected directly to my current B300 with max 200w input), my system will benefit from the additional direct solar charge, correct? I mean, the direct charging of the B300s isn’t limited by the Ac300, right?
  2. If I remove the B300s battery to take with me for the day, leaving the B300 still tethered to the AC300, would I not benefit from the better B300s battery if I ever plan to use it as a Standalone, even if normally keep it connected to the AC300?
  3. Regarding the heating function, if I connect a panel DIRECTLY to the B300s, while the B300s is connected to the AC300, would it not activate the self heating feature? So, if the B300s is connected to the AC300, and the AC300 has panels…I get that it will not wake the heater up in the B300s. But, will the B300s heater wake up if it has PV directly input?
  • In other words, I know I will lose some of the benefit of the newer battery (heating maybe…yes…no?, current limited to 75a)…but I don’t understand how else it is limited?

Thanks for the additional clarification.

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  1. That’s correct.
  2. When connected to the B300 or B300S, the charging and discharging power of the AC300 is the same.
  3. When the B300S is connected to the PV alone, the input power needs to reach 400W or more to start heating.
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  1. When the B300S is connected to the PV alone, the input power needs to reach 400W or more to start heating.

Thanks for the reply. Still confused on #3.

  • If B300s is connected to AC300 with it’s own PV on PV1 and PV2, but PV is directly connect to the B300s, will the B300s turn on when 400w of PV is reached on it’s direct connect? Or, are you saying that the the AC300 will not allow the B300s to heat if the B300s is connected to the AC300 regardless if the B300s has it’s own PV input providing 400w?

Thanks for the help!

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@DrewLoker
As long as the PV input of the B300S itself reaches 400W or more, it can heat up. It has nothing to do with the AC300. However, when heating, it does not charge, which means that the PV input of the AC300 will stop.

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With all this said, it sounds like the B300S will work with AC300 just at the same functionality of the B300. Admin states “the charging and discharging power are limited by the host, and the heating function is also disabled”. It appears that the host being the AC300, would limit the B300S to the B300 limits. And the only limiting factor for the heater is the 400 watts required by the heater. The heater will work with 400 watts from solar alone applied just to the B300S, according to Admin. Looks like BLUETTI has a hidden reason for not wanting the B300S to be used with the AC300. No where in the conversation did Admin suggest any damage would be caused to either unit when using the two together.