I have one B230 connected to an AC200Max, which I’ve been running for ~2 years. The manual states that the discharging sequence will pull alternately from B230 or AC200Max depending on which has higher charge, to keep all batteries at about the same charge level – but I’m no longer seeing this equalization occur.
In the past few months the B230 has been discharging much faster than AC200Max:
After a few hours of no solar (at night), I might see AC200Max at 60% , and B230 at 30%.
Obviously, this 30% difference is problematic and shouldn’t occur (per the manual) : the AC200Max is supposed to discharge from its internal battery instead, when the B230 charge level gets much lower than the internal battery. This doesn’t seem to be occurring.
They both charge to 100% each day using solar, and discharge each night to an average ~30%.
1)Why would the B230 drop so much more than AC200Max, when they both start from 100%, given that the firmware is supposed to pull from the higher-% battery to keep them all approximately equalized? 2)How can I fix this?
I would suspect that the BMS is misinterpreting the battery voltage vs charge status. I know that on my AC300 with 4 batteries (purchased at different times) two of the more recently purchased batteries read differently than the original 2. What I need to do, and perhaps you as well, is completely discharge the entire system with a constant load (I’d be using a 1500 watt heater) until the system turns off. Now the system knows the 0% point of the batteries. Then, after waiting to allow the system to cool for a while, recharge the system at a constant rate with no load applied until completely full. Now the system knows the 100% point. It should now show the actual battery condition and you will see if it performs normally.
Thanks. But, the manual states that the discharge switching depends on the charge percent (%), so the actual battery voltage (and how accurate it is) doesn’t matter.
That is, if a battery’s % – no matter how inaccurate – is lower than the other battery, then the other battery will continue discharging instead.
In this case, making the BMS more accurate doesn’t help.
Or, perhaps Bluetti mis-stated that, and the internal voltage is actually what determined which battery source is discharged or not?
@jCs Is the BMS version 1017.04? If not, please provide me with the SN of AC200MAX and the firmware version, and I will push the firmware for you to test.
Thanks @BLUETTI_CARE .
BMS: 1010.07
Unfortunately I can’t get a FW update, since i’m still on an experimental one for the past 1.5 years (which is needed so that the MPPT works properly in certain conditions), and this version hasn’t yet been pushed to the main code. So if I switch FW, the MPPT will stop working.
I’m more trying to understand the issue at the moment. Do you think this is a FW version issue?
My AC200MAX and the two B230s have the same problem.
The batteries are rarely discharged evenly.
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(all batteries 100% charged)
Usually the B230 Batterie Pack 2 is always discharged first, then at 80% total capacity the B230 Batterie Pack 3 is also discharged.
The AC200MAX is not discharged until the total capacity is around 60%.
However, there are also times when all batteries are discharged more or less equally, but this rarely happens.
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The same applies when charging, the AC200MAX is always charged to 100% first, then the B230 Batterie Pack 3, and when this battery is at around 80%, the B230 Batterie Pack 2 is charged first.
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Only when there is a lot of PV power, such as 500W, are all batteries charged at the same time.
When charging, sometimes a B230 suddenly jumps to 100% at around 60%
(always the same B230)
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By Batterie Pack I mean the battery number in the display
AC200MAX BMS firmware 1017.03
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Yes, the batteries are calibrated
So, update BMS 1017.03 to 1017.04 and DSP 4005.07 to 4005.08 completed.
(always with beads of sweat on my forehead during the bluetti firmware update,
but it worked without any problems)
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The battery status has changed after the update.
Without recalibration of the batteries.
AC200MAX from 71% to 44%
B230 (2) 47% to 83%
B230 (3) 74% to 69%
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I will continue to observe the charging and discharging behavior.
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Graphics are from 21.01.2024 about 10 o’clock in the morning.
The DC output of the box was active on 20.01.2024 from 19.30 to 24.00.
After that, all batteries were switched off.
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The AC200MAX then woke up again automatically at around 9.00 a.m. on 21.01 with the first PV sunrays.
At 9.25 a.m. I then switched the two B230 batteries back on. It hardly charged at all, it was cloudy.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------21.02.2024 15.38 Uhr
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Graphics are from 21.01.2024 at 15.40 hrs.
Charging finished, DC output switched back to active.
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You can now clearly see that the B230s are being charged almost synchronously,
the AC200 Max is still lagging a little behind.
Graphics are from 21.01.2024 at 23.00 hrs.
Doesn’t look bad.
Thanks for sharing the update. It’d be great to hear another update sometime after you have more sun, and more cycles, since one day is still a small sample size.
Also, how are you using home assistant?
I am now bringing this topic up again,
In my AC200MAX, one battery (no. 3) is hardly ever discharged, it never goes below 80%. This battery is also always charged preferentially.
(Sometimes it is discharged a little more)
Yes, all three batteries have already been fully discharged and recharged, and I have already swapped the two B230s with each other, but nothing has changed.
It’s always the same B230
And the latest BMS firmware for the AC200MAX is installed.
EU - German version
Ser No. 2226000689171
DSP 4005.08
ARM 4008.03
BMS 1017.07
HWI 6037.03
If there is no solution to this problem, please repair or replace this battery.
There is a four-year warranty, the battery is from 2022.
Picture,
at the beginning all batteries were 100% charged.
I’m sure this is something you’ve already checked, but I’ll mention it anyways. Is the blue button on both ends of the cable properly locked? I say this because the only time my batteries show percent but also show offline is when the blue button is not fully seated.
If they are fully locked, I’m wondering if there is an issue with the cable itself.
@BLUETTI_CARE I am having the same issue as jockel66 (I also have AC200MAX + 2 x B230), my current BMS firmware is 1017.3. When trying to update BMS firmware via the Bluetti Android app, it says that there is no newer version available. Can you prepare 1017.4 for me please ? SN is 2219001747138.
@rgb
Hello,
if i switch off the slide switch on the cable,
no battery capacity is transferred to the Ac200max. 0% is displayed.
So it’s not a cable problem, it’s a battery problem.
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I have already received several AC200MAX BMS firmware updates,
calibrated the battery etc. and the problem with the uneven discharging is still not solved,
on the contrary it is even worse now.
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And it looks like I’m not the only one having these problems with the batteries.
Hi @bearcatcrazy1971, Yes, this BMS firmware update has not been pushed out in bulk, as not everyone requires it. It is only sent individually when customers encounter issues and contact us for support.
Our IT department will push the latest version of BMS to your machine in 24 hours. Please upgrade it tomorrow.
When upgrading, please disconnect the AC200MAX from the B230 and upgrade the AC200MAX separately. Meanwhile, please do not load any device when upgrading it.
After the upgrade, you can reconnect the B230 with the AC200MAX and recalibrate them together.
Please follow the steps below to recalibrate it:
Please discharge all the power (charge AC & DC appliances with the power station) until the SOC is 0%, turn off the machine, and leave it for 3 hours till it cools down.
Please charge it again, please do not load any device when charging it, and do not interrupt it while in charge.
@BLUETTI_CARE
thanks for the reply.
Apparently the latest BMS firmwares do not solve the problem (see latest post from jockel66, apparently it gets worse with the latest firmware he installed BMS 1017.07 ?)
Honestly in that case I do not really want to take the risk of updating the firmware and making things worse than they are.
If you look at the image above, then I guess there must be something really wrong with the BMS calculations : batterypack 1 has 70% SOC but has the lowest Voltage of all ???
Can you confirm that the issue is still not resolved despite the multiple BMS firmware upgrades being published ?
If so can this really be fixed ???
So for the moment I choose to await your response before making any changes to the firmware.
