Can I stack two AC180s?

Ac180 case strength… can I stack two AC180s without damaging the lower one’s case?
Even better, can I stack an AC180 on top of the newer Elite 200? I see the dimensions are the same, but id the Elite 209’s case strong enough to have an AC180 on top of it?
Thanks, Jon

@Jon404
Stacking portable power stations is fine—you can stack up to two units.
Heavier unit at the bottom, lighter one on top (especially if models differ).

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Can confirm, stacking two units on top of each other is no problem!

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Erik – if out camping, can I charge my AC180 from my Elite 200? Conversely, can I charge my Elite 200 from my AC180? DC to DC, right?
Thanks from Jon Donahue in Tombstone AZ,
Jon404@outlook.com
P.S. how about a small <30 lbs Bluetti air conditioner or air cooler, that I could plug into a Bluetti battery? It’s warming up now out here in the high desert!

Hi @Jon404

You could charge the units with the 12V Plug. Its limited to 10A, so max about 120W. You also could charge by AC from the Inverter of the unit, just like you would charge it from the wall. This would be much faster but with more losses.

Erik

Thanks Eric.
Perhaps because I’m 81, I represent a slice of your market that isn’t technical, isn’t up on battery connections or even solar, for that matter. We like our electronics simple, easy to use. And your Bluetti units deliver on that. Plug them in, charge them up, and off we go offgrid with hot coffee and hot food. Miracles!
Please pass back to your marketing people that Bob Wells of Cheap RV Living is an extremely effective salesperson for Bluetti… Purchased my Elite 200 and AC180 on his recommendations. My own career was in ad agencies and PR, and I appreciate good stories well told about good products. And if your marketing folks could use gig help re ads, pr, or website design consultation, have them contact me at jon404@outlook.com… and they’ll find my resume at jon404.com. All the best, Jon

When charging my EB3A with my Bluetti AC180 using a 16 gauge 12V to DC7909 charging cable, the AC180 is outputting 106 watts and the EB3A is receiving 100 watts. On an 18 gauge cable (slightly thinner) the results were 96 watts for the EB3A and 106 watts for the AC180.

My starting state of charge (SOC) of my EB3A was 80%. My AC180 was fully charged at 100%. I charged the EB3A until it was 100%. The ending SOC of my AC180 was 93% . For the EB3A, 20% of the battery is ~54 Wh (0.20X268). So since the AC180 has a 1152Wh capacity battery, if we get theoretically got 100% efficiency it would have consume 4.6875% of the battery (54/1152). Since we consumed 7% of the battery we used up at least 80Wh (.07X1152=80)

Efficiency= 54Wh/80Wh ≈0.6648 (66.48%)

Charging over 12V is inefficient as you will only get about 66% of the available battery to use on the AC180 which is 768Wh or around not quite 3 full charges of the EB3A. If you only have one solar panel, a better solution would be to piggyback charge the EB3A only when you are getting a net solar charge from your AC180 during the day. In other words, if you had a PV350 panel and it was sunny out pumping out 350 watts, you would have 350 watts coming in, and 106 watts going out (a net positive charge), which is enough to top off the battery. This means you would have 244 watts available to recharge the AC180.

P.S. how about a small <30 lbs Bluetti air conditioner or air cooler, that I could plug into a Bluetti battery? It’s warming up now out here in the high desert!

I did a lot of research on cooling solution for my truck camper and I only have a small camper with around 40 sq ft of usable space (I have a Radica Moonlander). A 2300 BTU portable A/C was the smallest power hungry device I could find and it uses around 300 watts. That alone isn’t even enough to keep up with the heat. It will cool just YOU down. I need a bare minimum 5000 BTU A/C, which is going to be around 450-500 watts. That will drain through your battery awfully quick. For this reason I invested in an IcyBreeze ice-based A/C. It’s not perfect but it only needs a low voltage 12V fan to run. Sadly IcyBreeze was acquired in 2023 and dissolved later on, so they no longer produce the units. It pumps out air up to 35 degrees below ambient temp inside the cooler. A 20 lb bag of ice lasts me around 3 hours. It’s something I normally use it to sleep comfortably on those hot humid nights or during the day when its hot out. It also has a misting function so I can mist ice cold water on my face and cool myself down that way. Ebay is likely the best place to get them if you are interested.

Thank you Steve.
Heat looks to be an impossible problem, at least re Bluettis.
So I may go political, and get one of those dramatic new ICE ballcaps and jackets, then roll into any business and demand the use of a 120v AC plug to power a small REAL air conditioner. Whoosh! That would do it…

That … or let me blow your mind with a much simpler solution. Just chase 70 degrees :sunny:! Go wherever there is decent peak Sun and the average temperature during the day ranges “around” 70 degrees. You can also increase elevation to reduce temperature as well. Dry air around -5F for every 1,000ft and moist air -3F. Another reason you want to avoid the extreme heat and extreme cold is the Lithium batteries in the Bluetti AC180 will not charge below 32F and above 104F. You can discharge the battery at a lower temp (-4F), but the high temp is the same for both discharge and charge.

Thanks Sealy! I live in Tombstone, and will go down our Highway 80 today to the monastery at St David, on the way to Benson and I-10. Where there are actual trees, and shade, and water at the surface, and… peacocks! It’s a lovely place to stop, rest, read a book. As for 70 degrees… that’s us in the morning and at night. High desert much better than down to Tucson and Phoenix, where the planes will be sticking to the tarmac a month from now.
Anyway, have a good spring and summer!